Just as the enslavement of people was driven by commercial interests, today the enslavement of nature for profit violates a morality that sees value in all living things, according to the Rev. Mariama White-Hammond, pastor of New Roots AME Church in Dorchester, Massachusetts. She joins Host Steve Curwood to reflect on how overcoming slavery, which is celebrated on Juneteenth, can inspire us to find ways to depend on each other so we can thrive in a world of ecological justice.

Rev. Mariama White-Hammond and Host Steve Curwood continue their conversation with a look back to how she first became engaged with environmental justice. Rev. White-Hammond also shares her reflections on the importance of engaging hearts as well as minds on the climate crisis, and how she helps bring eco-theology into faith communities.

Rev. Mariama White-Hammond and Host Steve Curwood wrap up their conversation with a discussion about how faith informed her service as former Chief of Environment, Energy and Open Spaces for the City of Boston, and how her faith continues to guide her work to bring about ecological justice.